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The law relates to these developments that we see with these large companies. i don't mean to cast aspersions on any particular company or executive. >> well, and i think for many of us, if you're looking at a merger and they cannot prove the efficiencies and cannot prove there will be increased competition, then it does raise some questions as to how those would be evaluated. let me go to one other issue that's developing on this privacy front. it is a data privacy problem that i don't think a lot of people realize. it is the embedding of hardware and the geolocation. sometimes that informati...

Off that position. that said, he does want to reassure the country, i think it's gotten through to him that his typically obama distanced, cool response to these things which that's just the way he is, has left some in the country feeling unsafe. they want the president to speak more directly to them, to show that he personally is on top of these things. it's a kind of atmosphere this white house has not always been good at managing. they are trying to get it better. >> ari melber, what about the privacy concerns, civil liberties concerns? hillary clinton came down more on the side of we have ...

Policing their own platforms. i don't think there's real consensus on that or at least not as far as any kind of government mandate on the tech companies. we obviously want to make sure what we're doing is productive and gives the technology sector the right incentives. we don't want to disincentivize them from looking because they feel they're liable if they look and see and they don't report. that's a tough issue. the other issue is the encryption issue -- and that is the encryption of the device itself. even in the cases of the san bernardino shooters or others, you may have a situation whe...

Security measures to avoid detection and impede any investigation. what can you share with us about that? >> one of the things we know is that isil is very good at propaganda. anyone that has ever taken a look at isil inspired magazine called "inspire" which lays out both trade craft, ability to make bombs. this is a very sophisticated organization. and part of the way we have to counter this threat is by making sure that folks in the community are willing to step forward. if they see something that is inappropriate that oftentimes may mean community leaders, folks are much more willing to res...

>> great, i'm glad they're being proactive about it because this is an additional area that we need to strike at to effectively combat this ideology and debilitate them in terms of their ability to recruit young people who are, easily influenced and can be easily radicalized. even when you have twitter and facebook cooperating and taking one of these sites down 20 minutes later, another site is up. and they are very proficient at having their social media footprint out there. every time we take one down, they put too up. that's the pattern and practice that i've been studying to see. they have...