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This negotiation. meetings are good. but they are only good if they are used to leverage an end state. typically they will meet at the lower level and the leader will go and sign something. president trump flipped that on his head. he need to be sure there are negotiators that get us to an end game that gets us denuclearization and peace. jon: for years and decade, the conventional wisdom has been if you want to solve the north korean problem you have to get china to do it. president trump seems to be bipassing xi sending out a tweet saying hey, kim, let's have a handshake. >> he's telling chi...

He hadn't really thought about how many people hay die until right before they were going to launch the mission. that points to why congress needs to take back the power the constitution gives them. we'll get to that. to pick up on the general's point. the idea of we're lucky we didn't do it. it's not what people on the right are saying. they say punch them in the nose or they'll do it more. we look weak. >> my counter would be from one that it went into iraq ten days after the bomb stopped droppingment you get into a war and you don't have an end state or strategic consequence of what will ha...

Or they'll do it more. we look weak. >> my counter would be from one that it went into iraq ten days after the bomb stopped dropping. you get into a war and you don't have an end state or strategic consequence of what will happen especially in a place like the straits or hormuz. where iraq is about half the size of iran. and iran will take us to task. there's nothing wrong with using different political instruments of power like economic, diplomatic and yes there's the military instrument. which is always available to the commander in chief. and i'm sure general clark briefed on this. the hard...

Help isolate iran. but they actually don't want war either. >> no, they have an end state but no game plan for getting it. >> and the president did call mbs today and they did talk about all of this. and in the read from the white house, he never raised the issue of the new evidence by -- >> i asked him directly about that. you will see that on sunday. hasn't made a decision yet whether he will let the fbi investigate on that front. >> and i was going to say that they probably wanted some kind of strike, but maybe not one that would escalate the situation. >> so now i assume -- you don't want ...

And just a unilateral strike, even though it might be a proportional response to a shoot-down of a drone, where does it lead? and i think some of the military commanders were forcing that issue of saying, when you're about to use force and you don't know where it's going to take you, if it spins out of the control and you don't have an end state in mind, it's going to escalate very quickly. the quote from the guns of august, about what occurred in the first world war, was when a german general was asked, how did they get there? how did they stumble in the war? the general said, i'm not really ...