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Certainly. clearly what the president is doing right now is creating panic on capitol hill and i think this whole corker/president trump episode demonstrates a real fear we're provoking through his words north korea. and military -- >> deliberately. >> dlibltly. >> that doesn't end well. military action is not going to somehow stop a north korea nuclear program. these taunts, in fact, have the opposite effect where they're encouraging north korea to accelerate the development of their program and pushing away our allies. there's really no strategy here that demonstrates how we're going to get ...

Really has -- somebody called it feckle feckless. what was feckless was obama doing nothing, and completely uninterested. at least now what we have is a position of strength where we are standing up to north korea and saying we're not going to put up this with anymore. and we need an international coalition, we need the rules-based international law that our national security strategy is founded on. i think when you have mattis and kelly and mcmaster surrounding the president, i think that they have been through the same training that folks like me have, and we talk about the diplomat, militar...

We've concerned ourselves with, what is it that kim jong-un has as a capability, number one. we're beginning to see that. but also more importantly, what is his intent? we sort of know what he's trying to do. he's trying to sustain his regi regime. i'm not sure we've war gamed enough with this administration what that means to counter his actions and what we're trying to do in terms of a strategic end state. >> admiral kirby, what happens now that north korea has threatened a u.s. territory? does that heighten expectations the president could order military action? the president was saying, do...

>> well, just as you said, chris, exactly those things. and i want to go back to korea as the first one on that agenda. you know, what i would suggest as your military analyst as a war on the peninsula in the 21st century would be like -- unlike anything we've ever seen before, in terms of the massive artillery strikes that may occur. and the massive humanitarian disaster. there are over 30,000 u.s. forces on the ground in north korea, most of them near -- i'm sorry, in south korea, near the border with north korea. there are over 100,000 u.s. expats in seoul and in and around seoul. and there...

In the fact that an action -- it does not mean a strategy. a strategy means you have an end state in mind. if that end state is to get rid of chemical weapons, we already have that. we have to get the authority to go after that with military force. the other thing i'd point out, too, in your film on mr. assad climbing into that jet, right next to him was a guy by the name of jared gary seem move, a soviet general who pushed the efforts of asymmetrical warfare in places like ukraine, georgia and moldova as well. >> we'll see what the congress does, what the president does in addressing the amer...