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Are you aware of that interest of the president? >> i am generally aware of the president's skepticism toward foreign aid, and conditioning foreign aid on certain things. i am generally aware of that, yes. >> and ambassador hale testified in his testimony in public almost 80-based concept that each assistance program in each country that receives the assistance be evaluated. the program ensures that we avoid nation-building and don't provide assistance to countries who are lost to us in terms of policy, whether it's because of corruption or another reason. is that something you were aware abou...

Statements we've gotten both from gordon sondland and from kurt volker yesterday. two diplomats. and they both knew that the president and giuliani were demanding this investigation of burisma. that they never associated it with the bidens. if they didn't, they seem to have been the only people in the government who didn't. when you think about it, why would the president be asking for an investigation of one particular company? of all the companies in ukraine? all you have to do -- first of all, rudy giuliani and other people who were on the giuliani team were going to a number of outlets and...

It wasn't anything involving -- >> again, i'm not trying to put words in any one -- i think it went from the original generic, from may 23rd when we left the oval office, we are talking about corruption and oligarchs. until mr. giuliani started to become involved. and then it transitioned into burisma -- >> you hadn't even talked to giuliani by that time. this is july 19th. >> with all due respect, allow them to finish -- >> sorry, use the mic? >> allow them to finish the answer. >> of course, i apologize. >> we were communicating with mr. giuliani through secretary perry and ambassador volker...

Forgot to tell me the date. [laughter] but i think -- i want to thank you especially, mr. president, to usa, to your government. like i said, i know many people, many faces. we know each other. thank you for your support. especially now, when we have two really work in ukraine. with corruption. >> two wars in ukraine, the first is corruption. that was after the mets there it was released on september 11th. the president not committing to any invitations. to chris wallace on where we are. good afternoon.

Meeting, they get the money. it's not two plus two. it's 0 for 3. i've never seen anything like that and you told mr. castor that the president never told you that the announcement had to happen to get anything. in fact he didn't just not tell you that. he exquisitely said the opposi opposite. the gentleman from texas just read it. you said to the president of the united states, what do you want from ukraine? the president : i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. i want zelensky to do the right thing. i want him to do when he ran on. what did he run on, ambassador sondland? >> transparency. >...