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Anita, it boggles the mind that we are about to with straight faces have a conversation about god forbid a disaster or loss of life required as a triggering mechanism to get both sides to reopen our federal government after a month. >> i actually have been hearing that for the last few days, that even people close to the white house are saying that they will not budge, that the democrats won't budge until there's an accident or some kind of security safety issue, both sides aren't going to come to the table. but i think you hinted here that there is going to be some movement. this house propos...

Movement. this house proposal that they're talking about, i think that's probably going to go somewhere. i mean, clearly the senate bills that are coming up are not going to go somewhere. i think the house saying that they would look at spending some money not necessarily on a wall but on enforcement issues is going to get? attention. >> jeremy, same question to you and what just happened to the balance of power, at least within the beltway in the past few minutes. the president has agreed. something we've never had. to a state of the union that will await a reopened government. >> right. i th...

>> let's talk about what democrats would like to see done in terms of immigration, now that democrats will at least have the house. what in your view should democrats try to pass? and could anything the democrats pass make it through the senate in your view? >> well, i think the first thing is we have to lay out a vision, because we're not going to be able to get the broadest comprehensive reform that we want with this president and with the republican-controlled senate. but that doesn't mean we can't lay out the vision for what real immigration reform looks like. then we take a couple of key ...

Before 1921, the only immigration laws that existed were ones that restricted chinese immigration, and that most people who say well, my parents came in legally, there was no legal framework. you just came in as long as you didn't meet some sort of moral turpitude problem, you could get in. >> no, that's exactly right. >> let's talk about what democrats would like to see done in terms of immigration, now that democrats will at least have the house. what in your view should democrats try to pass? and could anything the democrats pass make it through the senate in your view? >> well, i think the...

For temporary protected status folks, make sure that we address these enforcement issues that have gone out of control, cruel, inhumane system that we have, really reel back on the enforcement, and tie dollars to accountability. we can't have kids dying in our care. that's just outrageous. so, those are some of the things that we'll have to do. but at the same time, i wrote that piece because i want every 2020 presidential candidate and the democratic party to really embrace immigration the way we need to, push for a vision that is big, broad, and really addresses these root causes and stops a...