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Shocking things that i have not heard. i don't hear anybody else talking about this and perhaps the reason is, only guys who deal with the issues every day would know. you have been outspoken and on our show before and clear in your criticism because you feel like the people who are dealing with these issues on the enforcement side are not listened to. i am curious what has happen in your career? is there any appreciation for what you have said or retaliation for what you have said openly and publicly? >> well, the american public has been overwhelmingly supportive. and i want to say thank you...

Heard. i don't hear anybody else talking about this and perhaps the reason is, only guys who deal with the issues every day would know. you have been outspoken and on our show before and clear in your criticism because you feel like the people who are dealing with these issues on the enforcement side are not listened to. i am curious what has happen in your career? is there any appreciation for what you have said or retaliation for what you have said openly and publicly? >> well, the american public has been overwhelmingly supportive. and i want to say thank you very much to america for. that ...

Terms of background checks. right now, i think one of the greatest challenges is that we have seen gun control legislation which i think was rightfully discarded as not the right solution, school safety efforts is a good solution but the third one is the enforcement side. and i know mark's probably just as frustrated that despite the president's commitment, there has not been an increased effort enforcement of our gun laws. i think the department of justice should look at why there's hundreds of thousands over the years that have applied unlawfully for a firearm, been rejected for it, but yet ...

They're black? how do you get around that analysis on the enforcement side. >> like i said, you have to have reasonable suspicion to stop somebody. you have to have probable cause. how do they know those credit cards were bad? because a transaction was made for $1,200 and they were black? that's not enough. >> can we talk about that? i was thinking about this all this morning, all last night knowing we were going to talk about this. this has sparked a lot of conversation about shopping while black. >> sure. >> my feeling is we have seen incidents where people say they were detained. we heard o...

Forward and agreeing on an immigration reform package that covered all of the concerns of the conservative movement and frankly if there was not unanimity a wide consensus that's the way we're going. >> yet she represents a part of the party. >> she has an audience but if you would have looked at this last year you would have never had a panel like this or reaction from the audience like we had. there's been tremendous progress towards a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform package and one that includes the concerns of most conservatives, concerns that have lasted for 20 years or more s...