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Call in those who were engaged in, worked with the ukranian embassy, folks like alex chalupa. if we were to have the identity of the whistleblower, americans would see we are not in this debate or discussion because the president did anything wrong or impeachable or criminal. we're here, fundamentally, because they cannot accept the fact that he won the 2016 election. and i think all americans know the president has a different approach. but to accept their standard would mean that if someone announces that they're running for office, it's kind of like an instant immunity deal for anything the...

Allow it. >> she clarified her comments this morning saying that she still continues to support impeachment, but in her mind, she believes what it what will happen with the senate voting that the president will not be impeached and she wants this on the order, which is why she proposed the idea of censure. do you think that's a valid point? >> i raised this issue last spring with the caucus, i believe. i was the the first person to raise it in the caucus. but the response was that it wasn't a strong enough measure for the conduct of the president engaged in, even at a time when we weren't purs...

President did attempt to exert pressure on a foreign leader in order to go after democrats to go after joe biden. that's obvious. it's been established. republicans like chris stewart say the case is getting weaker. he's just saying stuff. they have to say something. is the conduct the president -- the misconduct the president engaged in, is it worthy of impeachment? that's a different question. but the facts already have been established jond beyond a reasonable doubt. >> if the white house is blocking testimony from those that have firsthand knowledge of those events that transpired and forc...

Which guiliani was pressing for. >> again, testimony will happen in executive session meaning off camera, which means we may have to wait for the transcript to learn what he said. it is clear he could say a lot, we simply don't know. so there's that. there's house speaker pelosi today using the word bribery to describe what the president allegedly engaged in, obviously a word that is in the constitution, specified as an impeachable offense. in all, plenty to talk about. joining us, democratic congressman denny heck. thanks for being with us, congressman. the use of the word "bribery" is that b...

The investigations of biden, which guiliani was pressing for. >> testimony will happen in executive session, meaning off camera. we may have to wait for the transcript to learn what he said. it is clear he could say a lot, we simply don't know. so there's that. there's house speaker pelosi today using the word bribery to describe what the president allegedly engaged in, obviously a word that is in the constitution, specified as an impeachable offense. in all, plenty to talk about. joining us, democratic congressman denny heck. thanks for being with us, congressman. the use of the word "bribery...