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Should he become secretary of state. joining me on the phone, someone who knows rix tillerson and the oil business extremely well, t. boone pickens. thanks for joining me from the middle of a snowstorm in texas. >> sure, thank you. >> tillerson's nomination has drawn comparisons to dwight eisenhower picking the ceo of general motors for his defense secretary. when asked about conflicts of interest, the man known as engine charlie wilson famously said, for years i thought what was good for our country was good for general motors and vice-versa. do you think rex tillerson subscribes to the same ...

Outsource the jobs and he wants to have, you know, right-to-work in every state in america. he's been very clear on that. what does this say to the middle class? not to be fear mongering, but what would this do to the middle class in this country? >> well, it's the same set of policy, it's the same outlook, it's the same frame of reference we've seen coming from wall street and corporate america for 30 years now. i mean, even before that, when engine charlie wilson who eisenhower named to defense secretary, said what's good for gm is good for america, and vice versa, he was ridiculed because m...

What does this say to the middle class? not to be fear mongering, but what would this do to the middle class in this country? >> well, it's the same set of policy, it's the same outlook, it's the same frame of reference we've seen coming from wall street and corporate america for 30 years now. i mean, even before that, when engine charlie wilson who eisenhower named to defense secretary, said what's good for gm is good for america, and vice versa, he was ridiculed because most people understood that what is good for the big corporation in terms of profits is not necessarily good for workers, e...