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Control, so i would have to start to speculate that something occurred, possibly in its altitude or it lost some type of engines and was not able to recover power and descended into a mountainous area. >> you don't like that elevation for that area. that puts up a red flag for you? >> anything like that with a mountainous radar. they're talking about 6,800 feet. my first suspicions perhaps an engine out, some type of control problem that had been lower than they should be in the area. or even misreading a map for a minimum en route altitude. >> you're following this with your sources right now...

Call again. >> 52178. requesting immediate request. >> runway clear to land. >> 573. >> clear to land. >> lost location. >> three, i didn't. it looked like it was short of the runway by the vor. >> it sounded like he was down. >> engine out. immediate return. and the tower not fully understanding the situation say, okay land on 21 which would have been flying around the run and make it turn which obviously wasn't going to happen. he had to go back the other direction if he was going to make it. he was trying to make it and didn't quite. the fact he was sitting in that backseat might have been ...

To live to tell his tale. >> the easiest way to explain it is kind of like a person eating a piece of spaghetti. and the intake sucked me in so quick, and as soon as it sucked me in, it sucked off my helmet, my goggles, my gloves, my float coat, and the force of the air rushing into the intake sucked the air out of my lungs, and i blacked out for probably two minutes. >> j.d. survived getting sucked into the intake because he wore his helmet loose, and his helmet came off before he actually went into the intake and blew the engine out, which caused the blades to stop turning. >> and when i cam...

Automatically? >> automatically. there are virtually every aircraft pennsylvaniaer is on there. there is snow way the aircraft could just disappear. >> i just want to be clear, even if the aircraft was decapacitated in terms of everything out, there would be a signal as long as it still existed, there would be an automatic signal and a computer some place in the boeing headquarters there in the state of washington? >> well, the signal would stop at some point if the airplane was destroyed, obviously, that is transferred to the headquarters as well as boeing headquarters. >> j.p., when you have...

And the intake sucked me in so quick, and as soon as it sucked me in, it sucked off my helmet, my goggles, my gloves, my float coat, and the force of the air rushing into the intake sucked the air out of my lungs, and i blacked out for probably two minutes. >> j.d. survived getting sucked into the intake because he wore his helmet loose, and his helmet came off before he actually went into the intake and blew the engine out, which caused the blades to stop turning. >> and when i came to, i realized what had happened and i was probably in trouble. so i crawled out of the intake, and that's the ...