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States. you were out there with billy green. i'm trying to hold onto my speech writing job in the white house, you're trying to take it away from me. some times change. is it conceivable in your hillary heart that times could change over the next three years and she would not be hot to trot to run, that there may not be this ground swell of support for her? doug macarthur i'm told by the people who lived back there in '51 and remembered it, that he was unbeatable in '51 for president when he was fired by truman. the republicans would have ran him and won with him. a year later he was nothing, ...

The people who live back there in '51 and remembered it, that he was unbeatable in '51 for president when he was fired by truman. the republicans would have ran him and won with him. a year later he was nothing, ike took it away. is it true hillary has the staying power so that four years from now she could be president? >> yeah, i think she does. ted kennedy, remember, was a fairly young senator and hadn't really proven himself. douglas mccarthy was a general and no one knew how he would react to public service. hillary clinton has been on the scene for 20 years, two decades, and has been a f...

2010 or pry mire situation? >> as you know, every poll starts with an assumption. here's who we think is going to show up and vote, therefore that's who we ask the question of. romney -- not just the republican campaign but republican pollsters all across the country guessed wrong. we didn't see the intensity that was there for the president, particularly among young voters wchl overs . we oversampled male white voter. you add that all together and you're going to see two, three, four-point differences. and the assumption is incumbents are not going to pick up points on election day. >> i thin...

Country, guessed wrong. we didn't see the intensity that there was there for the president, particularly among young voters. we oversampled male white voters. and, you know, you add all that together, and you're going to see two, three, four-point differences. plus, the assumption always is that the incumbent is not going to pick up any votes on election day. i think this time -- >> i think that's right. bob, you're a pro. let's go through the first one. perception is about the enthusiasm level. we were watching the last election. you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement f...

>> well, i think -- as you know, every poll starts with an assumption. here is who we think is going to show up and vote. therefore, that's who we ask the question of. republicans, and not just the romney campaign but republican pollsters all across the country, guessed wrong. we didn't see the intensity that there was there for the president, particularly among young voters. we oversampled male white voters. and, you know, you add all that together, and you're going to see two, three, four-point differences. plus, the assumption always is that the incumbent is not going to pick up any votes o...