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And it's that mindset that is the subject of an excellent new book entitled drift. the unmooring of american military power, written by the academic, the anchor and now the auor. rachel maddow. my esteemed colleague. >> thank you. >> as i say, the book is entitled drift. as i read it, i was almost tempted to call it war gone wild. because there is a sense that both overseas and here as you depicted in the book, there is this desire to spend vast amounts of money without very much thinking about what is going on. >> and without very much sense that we can make decisions about it. we have this f...

To these wars. if you can be brief, is that your view? that you think the president has been weak on defense? weak in foreign policy terms? >> i don't think that is a realistic critique of this president. more importantly, mitt romney doesn't know the difference between an afghan and an afghani. mitt romney has had five different positions on libya. i'm leading my show with this tonight because i find it outrageous that he would claim any foreign policy expertise when he literally doesn't know the difference between an afghan person and an afghan uchbt currency. >> book is entitled drift. it i...

National resources is troubling. >> here's the thing. you make this critique in the book and i listen to someone like mitt romney who proposes a budget that would increase spending on the military. i then look at paul ryan's budget that says virtually the same thing. and i'm asking myself, are these people not aware of what has been happening for the last ten years in iraq and afghanistan? >> we have a default political position about spending on defense. which is just full speed ahead. and at a certain point. i can understand why that makes sense politically. but at a certain point, you can't...

These decisions. it is a core american value that there civilian decision. i think we are unsettled by the idea the military would act autonomously. the military doesn't want to act autonomously themselves value the civilian leadership they have responded to and they know that they do. i don't think pass key issue. with 1% of the country fighting the longest wars in our history, we have a divide between the military and civilian life that most americans are very uncomfortable with. >> i think another thing that one draws from this book is both your affection for the country. you love this coun...

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