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And i know you want to get to that later. so let me hold my piece there. >> well, look, this can be worked out if you look at the plans, and they seem very abstract when paul ryan and president obama talk about them. they are just saying, let's fix a little bit on the entitlement front, and they're not saying let's start tomorrow cutting. they're saying let's start in five years or 10 years. it is all doable and fixable. and then this gets to the engine of the economy. and if you fix that, if you stabilize the debt in some reasonable way, we're going to have growth. the unemployment rate shoul...

To end up facing some of the biggest foreign policy crises that we have had in many years. and i know you want to get to that later. so let me hold my piece there. >> well, look, this can be worked out if you look at the plans, and they seem very abstract when paul ryan and president obama talk about them. they are just saying, let's fix a little bit on the entitlement front, and they're not saying let's start tomorrow cutting. they're saying let's start in five years or 10 years. it is all doable and fixable. and then this gets to the engine of the economy. and if you fix that, if you stabili...

Biggest foreign policy crises that we have had in many years. and i know you want to get to that later. so let me hold my piece there. >> well, look, this can be worked out if you look at the plans, and they seem very abstract when paul ryan and president obama talk about them. they are just saying, let's fix a little bit on the entitlement front, and they're not saying let's start tomorrow cutting. they're saying let's start in five years or ten years. it is all doable and fixable. and then this gets to the engine of the economy. and if you fix that, if you stabilize the debt in some reasonab...

>> they're talking about the clock ticking. if they can get it done roughly this week and next week, can they -- what's the name that's tough for republicans from your side? would it be easier on raising the rate for the rich but not quite the 39.6? >> i think it's that plus -- >> which one? rate change or the level -- >> the level with which you raised that number, you know, from 250 to 400. even democrats are in that room saying yeah, we could probably look at 500,000 or a million dollars. i think the president is going to have to give at some point on the entitlement front. they're just sta...

They -- what's the name that's tough for republicans from your side? would it be easier on raising the rate for the rich but not quite the 39.6? >> i think it's that plus -- >> which one? rate change or the level -- >> the level with which you raised that number, you know, from 250 to 400. even democrats are in that room saying yeah, we could probably look at 500,000 or a million dollars. i think the president is going to have to give at some point on the entitlement front. they're just stalling that e venn shl outcome. look, boehner has, right now, a few cards that he can play. he wants to qu...