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In the democratic caucus and give up things they don't want to give up. that's where we are. jon: mary catherine, are you optimistic as peter seems to be that a deal is coming. >> maybe not as optimistic. but the entire left and unions and whole organized side is saying heck no, you will not touch this stuff. if he goes on the road and take the road show out it would be probably better to stick to negotiations. if he does the road show sell people on entitlement issue. he hasn't led on this "the washington post" said in editorial he said he would deal with the issue and never tackled it. he mi...

Specifically, boeing is probably the most important one. that has been hurt by any talk of sequestration. that stock has gotten hammered. the biggest day it's had in a long time. retail stocks taking off. market is believing that something good could happen. >> and that, chuck, is all music to the ears of the white house, at least -- >> well, that's right. >> first of all. >> you know, it's interesting, there are four players even though it's interesting to me that senate republicans are trying to say hey, get out of the way, let this be between boehner and the president. of course senate repu...

Immediate. >> let me ask you about within the democratic party, then. if the white house's priority is to get a deal, and the bottom line for house republicans is no rate hikes, if the white house were pursue this tax reform without rate hike framework and include in that the entitlement issue with medicare and social security and maybe medicare, that was floated a little bit last year. if that's the kind of package the white house can negotiate with republicans, is there a concern within the democratic party of a revolt against that deal with democrats? >> i think so. i think the president ha...

For him in what will be a withering attack on the things he stands for. but even esident obama in his comments and he is a decent man and family man and a spokesman for the romney vision. he says he disagrees with that vision. but he did make it perm. >> for mitt romney he could have gone the daring route. many are calling this a daring pick because of the medicare and not the entitlement issue itself could become. but he could have gone the rubio route. he could have gone a more dramatic route or a pick that would guarantee him the state or more likely to carry a state of portman and ohio. th...

Took out go right back into the program. >> well, listen. ordinarily, the entitlement issue would be a thorn in the side for republicans. it's hardly an election year if the democrats aren't demonizing republican plans. what's different about the this election season, i would submit a huge difference is that this is a first season that we can really say in a presidential campaign that the president himself, the democratic president himself, cut these entitlement programs to pay for his bloated health care budget. >> both the ryan budget, even your side has agreed to this. both the ryan plan an...