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took out go right back into the program. >> well, listen. ordinarily, the entitlement issue would be a thorn in the side for republicans. it's hardly an election year if the democrats aren't demonizing republican plans. what's different about the this election season, i would submit a huge difference is that this is a first season that we can really say in a presidential campaign that the president himself, the democratic president himself, cut these entitlement programs to pay for his bloated health care budget. >> both the ryan budget, even your side has agreed to this. both the ryan plan and president obama look at that same $760 billion in potential savings of money that was going to insurance companies. >> right, but what's different is -- >> let's just start there. >> what's different about that is that republicans have been honest with the public about the ballooning entitlement deficit

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