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no, that was up to seven. i think that was seven. it might be my souvlaki talking, but yes. so it's a big debate with all of the parties who are fielding candidates in the election being represented. and as a result of that, what you have is of course, the sort of battle royale going on between labour and the tories, but you have an opportunity to hear from a much broader rainbow of political opinion. yeah, it means on the one hand it's less focused than when it was starmer versus sunak on tuesday, and it'sjust two people going head to head on a range of issues. it becomes a bit more...

Four on saturday morning at 1030. so tune in for our inaugural appearance on the wireless. we could have been on the wireless a few times. but in this form. 0h, isee. well, you used to do the radio as well anyway, and then it would be at 11am on saturday mornings for the rest of the campaign. my favourite thing about the debate tonight was sitting in this studio, which kind of looks like a living room watching tv for an hour and a half with you. you were on your laptop taking notes, and i'm now going to picture you. like every time you sit and watch a film, you've got your laptop out. you're l...