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People are counted. it is really disgraceful. and it's not the founders what they had in mind. >> jesse: text like that not stopping. the trump administration from going forward. attorney general barr said doj has to work around to include the citizenship question. >> yes, we think considering all the options, and constant discussions with the president ever since the supreme court decision came down, and i think over the next day or two, you will see the approach we are taking. i think it does provide a pathway for getting the question on the census. >> jesse: okay, one williams, explained to...

People won't respond to the question about citizenship. that is a lot of people. how could adding this question actually hurt i guess the quality of information that they are getting from this? >> well, number one, i'm not a mathematician as much as i'm not a lawyer, but that is about 2% of the country. so that is a significant -- >> impressive. >> that is a significant number. i think that is about 2% of the country. somebody will correct me if i'm wrong on twitter. basically what you are trying to do with the census is count the number of people here. and if you undercount the number of peop...

Maryland and new york. the president saying in that clip there are four or five options they're considering here. time is ticking. what is he thinking? >> i mean, the president is clearly thinking he's trying to get the question on the census. and it has a huge impact on all kinds of things for the next decade. as he suggested, this has political implications whether republicans or democrats end up representing certain districts within the country and which states have the most representatives in congress and which programs get federal funding and who gets that federal funding. but i think we ...

Wanting to do. i don't know why you're acting so shocked by this. >> you know, no. i think there's a fine point to be put on here. again going back to the alito dissent, he said it was perfectly reasonable for a question -- for the government to understand how many folks in this country are actually citizens. >> and john roberts said the opposite. he said he thinks there's a cause for concern here regarding the rationale. >> no. he didn't say there's a cause for concern. as a matter of fact he found that i didn't violate the enumeration clause, i didn't violate the administration -- >> there w...

Citizens. >> and john roberts said the opposite. he said he thinks there's a cause for concern here regarding the rational. >> no. he didn't say there's a cause for concern. as a matter of fact he found that i didn't violate the enumeration clause, i didn't violate the administration -- >> there was a -- it was reasonable to be concerned about the rational and they needed to come back and come up with a better rational. >> a different rational. one that is the actual basis. >> are you seriously sitting here and claiming that it is not the rational of the -- >> wait, wait. >> just stop. just an...