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October 11. a major topic, working with russia to end the civil war in syria. joining me now foreign affairs columnist for the washington post david ignatius. interesting this close to the election that don jr. would attend this meeting. it was confirmed by kellyanne conway. there is a picture on their website. can we see don, jr., being an envoy on foreign policy? >> i'm surprised he was the env envoy. i'm not surprised there was discussion about syria. trump, in the campaign debates was emphatic about his desire to work with russia in syria to alie with russia and bashar al assad, the presid...

>> well, let me go to governor richardson. governor, you've had an amazing career of coming into situations, almost like chinese gordon in solving these problems. my question to you is there a solution in syria? >> very unlikely. the president and secretary of state were trying to push the env envoy, a very capable man to re-engage and try to bring the sides together. the only possibility would be a change by russia at the u.n. security council putting more pressure on assad to get out. so the diplomatic solution, i think they're still hoping for one but very unlikely. i thought the president ...

Transitional government, the rebels if you want to call them or opposition are willing to talk, they're willing to talk not about gadhafi's staying, they're willing to talk about the conditions after they establishes the principle of leaving. >> congressman weldon is now in libya to try to discuss the issue of gadhafi stepping down. but as the united states as a whole, is the white house behind this idea? >> i don't think so. if it is it's a mistake. it's a confusing message and a dangerous one at that. there is an envoy by the united nations and he is also the envoy of practice dally the secu...