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And that just isn't where republicans necessarily, even in california, even though they are a small sliver, necessarily are. so global and state party have to have a different posture to be successful. >> you're a native california girl. you know this better than both of us. republicans who ran statewide were always environment republicans. pete wilson, when he became governor, talked about big sur and sectioning it off for development. there's an environmental strain within the republican party in california. >> why isn't this more of a national issue? it's certainly a big issue here in calif...

Most kindly about. is this one of those things where democrats are afraid of their own shadow here, there might be room to move on infrastructure if they target what they are trying to do specifically enough? >> well, maybe. one would like to think this is an area for kmondground, traditionally democrats agree infrastructure spending is good for the economy and innovation and everyone can agree on traditionally, but i know you've talk abouted it on the show before, we're in an environment republicans are against the ideas they are for. look back at the deficit commission or cap and trade or in...