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Chile and argentina, this glaze sure's receding. we had to go over the lip of a volcano and descending into it and there's a giant, giant chunk of ice. >> this wasn't just for tv. climate scientists are gaining data from this height? >> yeah. i was with an ice scientist. he goes to the end of the earth to collect data. er i did get to live a few dangerous weeks with him. >> this is msnbc. i cannot have this discussion without raising the issue of certain skeptics about climate science. >> yeah. >> who say it's not subtle. senator inhofe says about the epa rule, the rule's about pushing a green...

Let's start at the beginning with the history and where we are today. what is the intent of the environmentalist community really? >> well, as i explain in "ecotyranny" if you want to know why the environmentalists and the obama administration want to allow us to be slaves to opec, are willing to allow us to endure rolling blackouts, critical water shortages and not allow you to choose between paper or plastic bags, that's why you need to read "eco-tyranny" all in the first half of the book. >> give me a hint. >> the problem is the environmentalists have never liked progress and never liked ca...

Approve the keystone pipeline. at a time when the big issue for all americans is jobs, creating jobs and there is an argument as to how many but obviously going to create thousands. why is he resisting this so much? >> well, the environmentalist community is an important constituency within the democratic party and he has disappointed them on other issues, cap and trade, for example, never happened. didn't allow the epa to do forward with some ozone rules and they are kind of disgruntled right now. my guess is that the pipeline will go forward but they are attempting to put it back until after...

>> i think going back to the immigration issue, during the last days of health care debate, a bunch of hispanic lawmakers were very upset with the white house, threatening to vote against the bill. essentially they met in the white house and they talked to the president and they were given something to the form of an implicit agreement that immigration would be tackled within the next year. if it doesn't happen before 2010, it will happen shortly thereafter. but there's a real issue here, a real concern that the base won't be motivated. when you look at energy legislation, the president has la...

Which he's already turned against the base. it's on nuclear energy and on offshore drilling. both of which have angered the environmentalist community. so there's concerns among people there won't be as much energy for 2010, which is already an election year which should historically favor the republicans. >> and about the republicans and this latest effort by bunning and coburn, and the results of this, each of them went out on to that platform and got the platform sawed off behind them by other republicans. why are they doing it now, and how do they convince people if they can't convince lea...