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Battleground of perception and information. >> reporter: but on other issues, mcmaster appears to be more in sync with president trump. >> we announced publicly often years in advance how we intend to limit our level of effort. and we ignore the effect that public announcements concerning limitations on the nature, scale, or time of our effort have on maintaining our own will to fight. >> reporter: on the fight against isis, mcmaster stops far short of equating islam with terrorism, but is adamant about the need to defeat terrorists. >> we're engaged in sort of righteous causes right now, okay...

Each other or, you know, trying to convince him of their position. >> i think that may be true. it's important to give him credit. this is a range of very good high-quality appointments. mcmaster in particular. this is a pivotal role. this is the guy who coordinates policy and in a sense speaks for the president. mcmaster is a thoughtful, intellectual guy. if you listen to his views on isis and islam, what's striking is how they are. but he very much believes it is a perversion of islam, a narrow perversion. so he has a very nuanced on the ground view of having actually worked with arabs, with...

Lot about it, jeffrey. go ahead. >> if the kushners and ivanka are so powerful and important, why is the president's counselor steve bannon who represents the alt-right which is charitably tolerant is jews if not actively anti-semitic? in a world where mexicans have been a target, islam has been a target, you know, jews at 2% of the population and shrinking are not -- are also another minority group. so, you know, in a world of hostility to minority groups, jews are never going to thrive and they know that, i think. >> but jews have thrived in the united states obviously over these many, many ...

Security. >> this is a sophisticated strategy, what russia is employing. we are doing a stud which a number of partners. it combines really conventional forces as cover for unconventional action, but a very -- much more sophisticated campaign involving the use of criminality and organized crime and really operating effectively on this battle ground of perception and information. mr. president, thank you very much. >> reporter: but on other issues, mcmaster appears to be more in sync with president trump. >> we announce publicly often years in advance how we intend to limit our level of effort....

On the ground, they're muslims. we work closely with jordan and egypt. they're muslims. by the way, they consider sunnis that don't agree with them as heretics. they consider all shia as heretics. they consider obviously christians and jos as heretics. we are in a civilizational struggle between these radical lunatics who are motivated by their interpretation of their faith and our values of freedom and liberty for all. >> but there is this conflict of cultures, and i think you're raising a good point. the dnc just came out with a new ad saying that equating islam, all muslims, with terrorists...