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We need to do something completely different, make it pop, so that stands out so you can stand out in the interview and the interview is crucial in getting that job. you can't be meek and mild and conventional. you have to be completely different than they're used to seeing in the interview. >> leeann taylor, rocking deejay. hold on for a second. our next guest is eric shektock in washington. he's an advocate for the homeless because he himself is homeless. eric, you've been reaching out. i've been following your blog. i've been following change.org. and how tough has it been for you since we ...

>> well, i'm not sure how pertinent my skills are. i'm a homeless advocate. there aren't many job openings out there for that sort of thing. i've been really busy doing what i do, pro bono, and so i haven't put in an awful lot of applications. i've been busy with this exit strategy effort. and actually, if it works out then, i'll benefit from it too because i'll get job training myself, and hofully it will pay living wage, that's what we're working on is making sure that the homeless can get living wage jobs, can get out of homelessness and not be dependent on the system at all. and so what i'...

>> i love it. we're social networking, eric, edwin, does that sound good? >> sounds good to me. >> sounds awesome. >> as soon as we wrap up this segment, we'll get our booker on that and connect all three of you. leeann taylor, congratulations, and edwin duarte and eric sheptock, all three of you making a difference and not giving up. i appreciate all three of you very much. >> you too, kyra. >> you bet. if you're out of work, want to sell yourself to perspective employers, let us know. send us your resume and letter to 30-second pitch at cnn.com. now a wounded iraq war veteran has a new m...

The streets you deal with they want to work, right? >> that's true. >> what do they tell you, people stereotype them when they walk in the door? do you feel like you're stereotyped when you walk in the door to do an interview? >> yes. when you're homeless or you've been homeless, you get stereotyped a lot of times. you have to remember a lot of folk who are college-educated and have high level of skill are losing jobs, and so if you're unskilled, then it is even tougher. there is a lot of competition out there. and so hopefully this job training that we're creating for the homeless will make t...

Department ofum s s,th deol, also the head training administration, and clarence carter, who is the director of human services in d.c. government, and his deputy director laura zilinger. we're talking with the homeless about how to get them job training and working on creating a program that will employ them because d.c. government's ten-year plan and homelessness had nothing in it about getting jobs for the homeless. >> here is what's amazing -- what mazes what amazes me, you're being so proactive. you're connected to the right people. you're helping. i'm going to use a different word, i said...