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Pompeo said, no, we want a whole bunch of optionalty so that countries can continue to work with the iranians. pompeo got his way. which means even though this has been a risk, the deal was still in place. the end of 2018, oil prices are low. the iranians are not producing. so the iranians are basically trying to run out the clock on trump. saying, if he only lasts one term and we have good behavior, the next person will stick with the deal, we'll still be okay. that's a risk. we'll see how it plays out. >> dana: we have 30 seconds left. tell me about the erosion of institution. >> it includes...

Serious thing here is not the immediate, but the long-term. both serious, but i concern myself with the long tern-term, we are eroding institutions, undercutting public confidence in institutions, we are certainly going to need these institutions again. and now tle will be wounded for the longest time. one other thing i need to point out. in pushing back those institutions, my tribe, the intel guys, yours, journalism, the fbi. we have to be careful in pushing back against a norm-busting administration that we don't violate our own norms. in doing that. because if we do, we only add to the dest...

Clinton -- people go to the jobs by and large do so because they believe in public service. you can't apply that title to everybody you that works there. >> you worked in the white house. it's not just because i don't like the president. he is eroding institutions and the stance abroad. the damage is done to american democracy unraveled. so in my opinion anyone that is working in the white house that is complicit that doesn't beat in back every single day, i think those individuals are complicit i'm calling them bad apples. >> i want to white house response? can i do the white house response? ...