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Now, not hate motives. >> thank you, jim kavanagh. i want you to stay with us and we will speak with a witness on the phone. >> you spoke with the witness err morning and anthony reynolds is joining us on the phone. can you hear us, anthony? >> i can. >> i imagine it is starting to sink in, all that you saw and all you that know about the situation. but take us back. where were you? what happened? what did you see? what did you experience? >> yeah. i was actually walking right out of the club. at 1:05, i was leaving out of ned pepper's bar because i have to be at work at 6:00 a.m., so me and m...

Hearing reports this morning of another sort of rifle was used. >> a long gun. >> that was used in this morning's shooting. what do you make of all of this, jim? >> as we talked yesterday at length about texas, a long gun, methodical mass murder when you're walking through a store, unarmed citizens and shoppers on back-to-school day and methodical mass murder. you can hear the shots. they are aimed and they are pointed and in the tapes you played yesterday, you could hear it and we analyzed it. this is a methodical mass murder. a man who drove nine hours. he probably had this plot planned a mo...