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They can call a press conference and say what they want to say. when it comes to the game, entertaining americans and viewership is down 7%, this is real money. 14 billion dollars this industry is. let me tell you, americans are voting with their feet, they're not watching, and that is what matters the most, not seats, not busting the seats in the stadium because those numbers about the same. dollars and cents, that's going to make a big difference. >> gerri, let me quickly say, it's the president who said these s-o-b's, pretty offensive, should be fired. and he made this an issue and colin ka...

Even the most kind conservatives are portrayed as evil my sojnistic. now donald trump comes along. he's a jerk and may be an s.o.b., but he's our s.o.b. they are defending the indefensible in some cases. that's part of the story. >> does that mean it's not true about some aspects of what someone may be saying, their personality or beliefs because donald trump might be worse on the issue? maybe there were things. >> could be a nice bigot. >> democrats cried wolf. >> a lot of -- go ahead. >> actually, i agree. if you look back over time. john mccain and mitt romney, i think they would have been ...

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