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We are witnessing putin on someone with vulnerableties. we use that in es pepionage. we might say we can work on this problem together. this is for the good of both our countries, which is obviously exactly what putin was doing when he floated the idea of forming a joint anti-cyber or anti-hacking organization with the u.s. itis laughable and it's embarrassing. think of putin as a master puppeteer. he is controlling everything and sadly, our president and this administration have become marionettes of the russian government. this is classic kjb tactics we are see thag are played out before our...

Agent in a club uptown, i don't see how that gets them to the white house. >> well, the other thing, of course, dylan, is trying to get to our technology. trying to advance theirs by stealing ours. russia has a long, long history of doing that. >> effectively industrial espionage. if you were to look at post cold war, have russian spies been here ever since the wall fell? or do you think this is a new thing where basically they returned after a period of absence? >> i don't think it's new. go back to katherine -- of course, es pepionage has been around forever. since the beginning of history. ...