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Vacuum. it takes a couple of weeks before we see the real results of these numbers. we could see a jump in hospitalizations, we could see jump in death. and i think governments will, at that time, you know, think about taking stronger measures. the focus right now is to get these kids back in school after the holidays, paula. >> yeah, barbie. we'll continue to watch the numbers there. and with the holidays now over, perhaps we will be hearing more early next week. barbie nadeau, happy new year, i haven't seen you, and thanks for that update. joining me now is a global health expert at universi...