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System of placing prisoners was used by janet napolitano, currently homeland security secretary. a college professor who once ran new york's rikers island prison says private prisons can be effective. but he says he wouldn't let guards at private jails watch violent offenders. >> what couldn't they do? >> they could not arrest. they could not effect an arrest. they were not empowered to. they may not have sufficient training in arrest procedure. they may not have sufficient training in escape prevention, riot techniques, responsibilities, responses to emergency situations that could require ph...

They may not have training in arrest procedure or in escape prevention, riot techniques, responsibilities, responses to emergency situations that could require physical force up to and including deadly physical force. >> reporter: gasten says it's important that guards have all that training and certification as so-called peace officers. an official with the state's department of corrections tells us guards at arizona's privately run jails like the one in kingman do not have the certification and do not have the power to make arrests but they say the level of training is the same across the bo...

These statements at the behest of union bosses who back him politically and encourage him to exploit this tragedy. he denies he is acting on behalf of the unions. he says the state's system of placing prisoners was used by former democratic governor janet napolitano. a college proffer who once ran new york's riker's island prison says private prisons can be effective but he wouldn't let private guards watch violent offenders. >> they would not effect an arrest. they may not have sufficient training in arrest procedure or in escape prevention, riot techniques, responsibilities, responses to eme...

Janet napolitano who is the homeland security secretary. and now the former reiker island prison warden said he would not let guards at private jails watch violent offenders. >> reporter: what could they not do? >> they could not arrest or effect an arrest, they were not empowered. to they would not have sufficient training in arrest procedure or sufficient training in escape prevention, riot techniques, responsibilities, responses to emergency situations that could require physical force up to, and including deadly physical force. >> reporter: now gaston says that it is imperative that guards...