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To create chaos. but why would he want to hide, covert his communications from the u.s. government, believing that he would want to be able to use a facility obviously that would have more secure communications to create a back channel that u.s. cryptologic collection couldn't get? that right there alone is covert communications. that is indicative of espionage activity of an american citizen that is working in league with a hostile government. and right now there is no fbi counterintelligence officer in the world right now that does not believe that if this story is true. >> and, paul, it str...

Governments. >> why would he want to covert his communications from the u.s. government? that right there alone is covert communications. that is indicative of espionage activity of an american citizen that is working in league with a hostile government. >> mr. kushner's attorney has released a statement about her client's relationship with russia. it says that, quote, mr. kushner participated in thousands of calls in this time period. he has no recollection of the calls as described. it all raises questions of just who exactly is jared kushner. this week we got a look through a special window...

Source of this was. the russians themselves could have leaked this story in order to create chaos. but why would he want to hide, covert his communications from the u.s. government, believing that he would want to be able to use a facility obviously that would have more secure communications to create a back channel that u.s. crip tow logic collection couldn't get? that right there alone is covert communications. that is indicative of espionage activity of an american citizen that is working in league with a hostile government. and right now there is no fbi counterintelligence officer in the w...

Meetings, so long as they weren't, as you said, clandestine. and there appears to be a concerted, organized effort amongst all of them to cover their tracks in meetings with kislyak. now people say well, kislyak is an ambassador. what could he possibly do? well, within many countries and not the united states, but other countries, foreign intelligence officers report to diplomats, and diplomats themselves are used for recruiting officers. they're also used as case officers in some instances where your contacts, your potential recruit is very high value, and you don't want to connect them with ...

The rest of them. this man is a focal point for financial or nefarious espionage activity, i don't know, which is why we have a special counsel. but it needs to be sessed out. all of them hid it from their special security forms because they don't want the united states to know about their activities. >> that is the point, michael isakof. it would be rudimentary and mundane you're going to meet with foreign officials even if it's the russians. have you ever heard of a situation where so many people would neglect to mention or seemingly deliberately not mention meeting with an ambassador on the...