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Become acceptable to publicly talk about the fact that we're going to kick the tires, and then we'll decide -- i mean this is not what a democracy looks like. and yet the conversation about money in politics has gone the way of the dodo bird. >> they're being explicit about what the bribe is. like what the agenda is. they want to play lower taxes. it's not some philosophical thing. they're not going to give it to scott walker so easily right away, right? they want to extract promises. they're not stupid. >> but that is insane! go ahead, david. >> i just can't wait for the essay test. >> right,...

>> so this is like the home loan thing and greeting as -- and getting as many people involved? you can't get rid of the college debt. >> the debt? >> like what you owe. >> the whole machine. from the s.a.t. to the colleges and the grad schools. >> the s.a.t. measures how good of a test taker you are. i crushed the s.a.t.'s. people who did a lot worse on them did better than me in college. i don't think it means anything. i agree some kids can be tutored on top of s.a.t. prep and destroys any notion that it is a fair test of anything. jedediah, talking about essay, they are making it optional. ...

To new york to wisconsin? >> look at their high school transcripts. >> but different high schools have different demands and you don't know if there's an inflation of grades from here to there. >> my son is a senior in classroom too. >> and you're going to put it on dudes outside of princeton that decide this. >> are you telling me it's a bunch of guys smoking pot. >> no, it's been unattack for years and for good reason. >> i also know that three of the ten schools he is applying to don't want them. >> let them all get rid of them. >> what they should have is an essay test because of the inept...

From oklahoma to new york to wisconsin? >> look at their high school transcripts. >> different high schools have different demands. you won't know if there's an inflation of grades from here to there. >> based on a bunch of dudes outside of princeton -- >> you're going to tell me it's just three guys -- >> this thing's been under attack for years and for good reason. >> the a.c.t. too. my son's taken both. one of those facts of life. i also know three of the ten schools he's applying to don't want him. >> good, let them all get rid of them. let them all go broke. >> what they should add is an ...