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The iranians the same way, very sophisticated. they could hit us when they want. they choose not to. our defenses are bad. weak. our software, our hardware, the rest of it, we haven't put a lot of money into it. yes, they can definitely hit us and this is the whole problem with russia that if russia gets away with this during our elections or in our power grids, who is next? and that's why the senate and the house and the president has got to face this and come up with a strategy to counter, retalia retaliate, whatever it takes to get people to stop this. >> bob, i imagine that the united stat...

I think i knew it was coming at some point, and mark is now, you know, one of the richest people in the world, as he probably should be. >> do you think mark knew it was coming, from the beginning? >> you know, no. not at all. i think he never cared about money. he still doesn't really care about money. i think it was never about that. he wanted everyone in the world to be on facebook, but as like a major company worth billions of dollars, no, that was never kind of on the radar for mark. >> i want to open this up to the panel a little bit, the notion that mark wanted everybody in the world to...