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In the most traditional way almost as if it was outsourced to the establishment in terms of the person who ran against that blachement to basically be like i know this is a good thing for you guys on the establishment, get an establishment pick and i'll put him on the court. >> the president, he said tonight, he made no -- had no reservations about advertising that fact tonight. it was unprecedented what he did in terms of the campaign in terms of saying i'm going to develop a list, work with the federalist society, the heritage foundation and i'm going to let you hold me to account for pickin...

Thing that keeps coming up when people are talking about him is that he is in the mold of justice scalia and that is because he has written, given a number of speeches where he's talked about his approach to the constitution, how he goes about interpreting it and i think that will be something people take a close look at. >> you made one point and i want to return to this. this is a president who in his first 11 days has conducted himself quite differently than past presidents have. there's been this kind of total upending of things. total disruption. not using the interagency process, putting...

To say about it. one we have said this is an establishment pick that unites the republican party on capitol hill and around the country and fulfillment of a trump promise. his name on the list and he's in the mold of scalia but not nelve nearly as conservative. i believe now this is an open question whether the democrats can hold together the pressure from the democratic base on any democrat is going to be huge and up to mitchell mcconnell how to haneled th handle that. >> tom perez who is running for dnc chair released a scathing statement calling for democrats to block the nomination. quote....

Between these two men? both federal appellate judges. both relatively young. would be on the befrm quite a long time. is there a difference between them that might make one more palettable to the united states senate than the other? >> it's interesting. neil gorsuch, he would be more the establishment pick, right? he is from colorado. a kennedy clerk. he has opinions on religious liberty. the conservatives really like him. he is young, 49 years old. presidents like to put young people up there for a lasting legacy, and he sailsed through his confirmation hearings. then there's thomas hardaman....

Picks are outsiders. they are business people. and i think the thing that i continue to be hopeful about with the exception of the deficit because it's going to play back into that, trump wants to win. he wants to go down in history as a great leader. the good news is he's not going to be beholding to what he ran on b what will work over four years. bad news for the deficit is he won't be concerned with 20 years down the road and concerned with his legacy and the least responsive to deficit issue to your point before but other than frankly flynn and we've talked about bannon, i have no issues....