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He has a ceiling but if gingrich, perry, santorum, bachmann all drinking from the conservative pool, mitt romney drinking from the establishment pool, maybe it's enough. jonathan capehart, he'll be back later on. >> thanks. up next, we have newt gingrich on the bus right now in central iowa, but today he took some time out of his schedule to sit down with our nbc news political director chuck todd for an interview. chuck joins me live from mason city. hello, chuck. >> reporter: mr. cillizza, doing double duty. how are you doing, sir? >> well, sir. tell me what newt had to say. >> reporter: w...