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Trump. it is two-fold. one is donor. a lot of the donor class is terrified of donald trump and goes racing to jeb bush as the safe harbor. if you are a more let's say creditable conservative al alternative to jeb bush, your message is not getting out. we are talking about donald trump. and being unable to separate yourself from the pack and go head-to-head with jeb bush the bush people have been thrilled everyone is talking about trump while he's raising money and sailing along with establishment support. >> trump is offering such a contrast to a jeb bush and that is what the conservative base...

Hillary rodham clinton lg hillarying healthing be? >> i don't think she has much to worry about. he doesn't have the establishment support. he doesn't have very broad based support, so the polls show from -- comes from one of the whitest states in the country. >> 1% of vermont. >> there is a more anti-hillary sentiment here than pro-bernie sanders sent meant here. loo if he represents -- bernie sanders represents the liberal base which is the beating heart of the party now on the bottom era, james, doesn't that give him a shot perhaps to at least give her a scare maybe in iowa maybe win in iow...

Announcement. one of his rivals senator ted cruz made the rounds in new hampshire over the weekend. appears the e-mail controversy about hillary clinton is not going away any time soon. with me now to talk 2016 politics. thank you for being with me. benjy, start with senator rubio, he pulled fourth in a cbs news poll among republican candidates. we talk about cruz as a second tier candidate. where is rubio? >> rubio is definitely edging into the first tier. and i will tell you exactly why. he has been overlooked a lot of times because he occupies similar space to jeb bush in terms of policy bu...

Aware of these problems. and when you talk to walker insiders you say, what are you doing behind the scenes? they're reaching out to conservative news outlets who are very weary of walker's position on immigration because they're trying to balance. they want the establishment support. they don't want to lose the hard right. immigration is a key issue. >> if you know that, and the governor's spokeswoman says he did not say citizenship, that he is not for that, but if you know that, again, these are not nobodies in the room. these are people who understand the issue who are saying, he did say th...

Carolina he could go 0 for 3. >> this is the thing that i continue to wonder about and write about, this idea front-runner in the race. he's the front-runner by one measure, fund raising and maybe two, establishment support, though that's kind of code for fund raising too. you can't buy votes. if you could, ross perot might be president with all of the money he spent or rich people who spent money would be elected to things. just having a lot of money to communicate to voters isn't enough. common core he's not where the base of the party is and at some point, right, you have to convince the pe...