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That as an exaggeration -- if you are not affected by inside the beltway or washington establishment thinking, understanding trump is easy. it is elite versus real people. it is somebody that is fearless and willing to fight against the things that no republican has been willing to fight against or defend. he has an engaging personality. he doesn't offend people -- the left thinks he does because they act if i did, but trump just makes people laugh. they can't get over the fact that he is likable. because they hate it. they despise it. are we allowed to mention competing cable networks? becaus...

At all. if you are not poison -- i use that as an exaggeration -- if you are not affected by inside the beltway or washington establishment thinking, understanding trump is easy. it is elite versus real people. it is somebody that is fearless and willing to fight against the things that no republican has been willing to fight against or defend. he has an engaging personality. he doesn't offend people -- thee left thinks he does because they act offended, but trump just makes people laugh. they can't get over the fact that he is likable. because they hate him. they despise him. are we allowed t...

I don't think it is hard to understand the trump phenomenon at all. if you are not poison -- i use that as an exaggeration -- if you are not affected by inside the beltway or washington establishment thinking, understanding trump is easy. it is elite versus real people. it is somebody that is fearless and willing to fight against the things that no republican has been willing to fight against or defend. he has an engaging personality. he doesn't offend people -- the left thinks he does because they act if i did, but trump just makes people laugh. they can't get over the fact that he is likable...

That there is, because this president is not easily shamed, i think his supporters would argue that this would be another action of an area that is truly an outsider and it fighting against establishment thinking. a point about south korea. sm people would say you're so ignore really y igno igno igno igno ignore -- ignorant. other people are saying it is refreshing, why do we have so many. >> right, and i think it could be whatever his impulse is. but to you point, i want to quickly read the john kelly book. i think itencapsulates

Are in a holy war against regulation. >> so rucker is also with us from "the washington post." the other topic hallie ran through was rex tillerson. >> yeah. >> do you think the president does have confidence in his, what's the word, on the white house right now when it comes to tillerson's fate? >> the president said he has full confidence in rex tillerson, but i got to tell you white house officials say privately that he has a lot of concerns about rex tillerson. he's bothered by tillerson's traditionalist sort of establishment thinking on foreign policy. there's been a series of issues over...