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Atlantic city. thanks for being with me. jeb bush in south carolina tuesday, in atlanta today. what he trying to get out of spending time in the deep south as opposed to nevada or iowa? >> reporter: jose south carolina will potentially be critical for, or could be critical for jeb bush in that it's a state that has a long history of picking nominees nap didn't hold last time. south carolina used to be very proud of saying we've perked every republican nominee since we selected ronald reagan in 1980. newt gingrich obviously won in 2012 and did not go on to be the nominee. somebody like bush. bu...

This is name recognition. and also for the few that it might be not just about name recognition, we're looking at christie is definitely more to the left and more moderate than jeb bush. and definitely more explosive and not as politically correct to a degree as a candidate. i have to say though, katie, i always -- i've always said that jeb bush was a name that scared me the most up against hillary. i think if we look at past polls she has a double-digit lead over some, but i think that's a smaller gap when we look at the latest polls with her and jeb bush. so i'm happy, but i'm more worried w...

Latest polls with her and jeb bush. so i'm happy, but i'm more worried with a jeb bush than a chris christie. >> oh, you think he's going to win. >> i didn't think the presidency. not the presidency. >> that's true. how do you -- you're looking at the people who are getting a lot of the money the people with the establishment type names the name recognition. are we starting early? it's not just republicans. democratic strategists are also looking at who is polling well even though it doesn't matter to all the normal people as guy says. how do you start getting your machines ready to take on a ...

Moderate way. and two, is this a strategy that other republicans threatened with tea party challengers will employ? because previously what we've seen is the old story the republican gets challenged by the tea party. they run as far to the right in the primary as they can. they may not make it. this is a totally new dynamic where cochran actually tried to move to the middle to pick up this new coalition and it worked. >> it did work. i think it depends on the state. i mean, of course as you know, there's some states where there's a closed primary so you have to cater to those republican voters...

And now he's moved up a spot and he's now taking his friend, eric cantor's place. kevin mccarthy will be the new house majority leader. >> i hear all the activity in the buzz around you. there's more voting happening. correct? >> will is more voting. because now that kevin mccarthy, who is the house majority whip, moved up, there is a race taking place as we speak. another secret ballot for his job. this is really where the drama is. the reason is it is dramatic is not because maybe -- that the people running household names. they are not. it is dramatic because when you look at the rub within...