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>> i think that's right, lawrence. i'm so happy to work on this letter with todd and it's a broad range of people who disagree on many things. it's a surprising ad mission. and i thought what eastman said was interesting about the spineless establishment types. they are spineless. the "wall street journal" publishes a long letter from donald trump full of lies. mcmcconnell supports hershal walker in georgia. a bunch of republican senators screamed at merrick garland because he thinks the fbi should perhaps protect school board officials from intimidation and fear and threats of violence. i mea...

>> jon: i guess the far left wing of the party, the sanders sanders-warren wayne, that is divided by those two candidatesg to gel and pick one or the oth other? >> when you talk to party establishment types who really fear warren or sanders nomination because they don't feel that they could beat president trump, they would be seen as radicals, they are interested in the fact that people have interesting second choices. a lot of biden second choices pick sanders. it is very confusing. and they don't think that that has yet become clear. we will know more maybe by december. maybe not sure if the...

He often will listen to people like sean hannity or rush limbaugh. so do the more establishment types convince him to their side and for how long? >> after two and a half years they realize he is so unpredictable their best bet is to turn a blind eye when they have to, focus on the policy like julia was saying and weather the storm, not to denounce him because he will come out swinging. >> and you saw omar back home. hero's welcome. the president said a staged crowd. it was organized just like his rallies are organized. she's like i'm going to stay in the arena an keep going. she said she thou...

New jersey, the new york and new jersey area. and she is considered an in thisser in the trump political circle in an world where the president is operating among long time staffers and gop establishment types. he is comfortable with conway, and she is willing to go on television, and we can't discount the power of that, so many advisors are associated with these controversies, and she defending him. >> there is a horrible tragedy on friday, that person name checked the president, and he barely had a word to say about it over the weekend, but today

Whether obama holdovers, establishment types and now he's choosing cabinet members and aids that more align with his point of view. >> you also have to remember, and we've been following this story from the beginning, and there has been a lot of turnover, but this is someone who hasn't been in politics before. he hasn't run for office. he's definitely not been president of the united states. it seems from afar that he's becoming more and more comfortable in that role and getting a better sense of who he wants around him and who he wants to get advice from. >> that's a good point. yesterday whe...