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Maybe president biden. gordon chang is the author of the coming collapse of china and he joins us tonight. gordon, if you are china, you are looking at who has called china out on a bunch of different issues and you've got everybody else. aren't you rooting for everybody else? >> they certainly are, tucker. you have to go back to eisenhower to find an american president who has as robust a policy as president trump does. the chinese look at trump and they don't like him for two reasons. first of all, he's hammering them day in, day out. also he's unpredictable. they can't figure out what he's ...

Orton chang is the author of the coming collapse of china lee joins us tonight. so gordon, if you're china, you're looking at a pretty clear choice. or you have, for whatever his flaws, donald trump is the only president in recent american history who has challenged chinese -- called china out on a bunch of different issues and then you've got everyone else, so aren't you rooting for everybody else? >> they certainly are. you have to go back to eisenhower to find an american president who had as robust a policy as president trump does in the chinese look at trump and they don't like them for t...

Border security, the asylum rules, whether more aid to central america will solve the problem. we'll be joined by key figures, plus sara carter and charlie kirk with me for the night. but we're going to start with what's most important in all this, you. where do the american people stand on immigration? what do you want done? if you listen to the democrats and establishment media, president trump stands on immigration, and how many times have you heard this, just pandering to his base. here's a taste of the establishment view. >> i have not seen the president be serious about dealing with immi...

Running for office. a big group think about iraq. we got to vote for the iraq war and defend it. you came along, what are you nuts? no, that's crazy. i wonder if, like, this sort of establishment view, that, like, impeachment is too risky, it has political downsides, represents a kind of group think? >> it could. >> you know? >> it could be inside the beltway group think. that's true. but if you look at the dynamic of what's happening, it's better for the public to lead on this, and that's what they're doing. with a lot of encouragement from these 67 members of congress. i don't think anybody'...

Classes they can get a kind of group think, right? >> yes. >> it happens. >> that's a big problem. >> and i remember, you know, back in 2003 when you were running for office. a big group think about iraq. we got to vote for the iraq war and defend it. you came along, what are you nuts? no, that's crazy. i wonder if, like, this sort of establishment view, that, like, impeachment is too risky, it has political downsides, represents a kind of group think? >> it could. >> you know? >> it could be inside the beltway group think. that's true. but if you look at the dynamic of what's happening, it's ...