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The government overstepped its powers, a lot of people feel that way. you have made statements that make it sound like you support a volunteer force. do you? >> well, i certainly support our national guard. we certainly have that. on section 44 of the oklahoma constitution, we already have a state guard. it's just unactivated, it's never been organized. i don't have the historical knowledge of that. it's something we have available to us. >> you said the national guard was federalized and not available for some state issues. it sounds like you are saying it exists in the statute. would you sup...

Congress is so far overreaching into state's business, it's crippling our economy. the bail outs, the stimulus, obama care. >> so, the question, does he support forming an armed state guard? if so, what would it do? state senator randy brogdon joins me now. thank you for being with us. the government overstepped its powers, a lot of people feel that way. you have made statements that make it sound like you support a volunteer force. do you? >> well, i certainly support our national guard. we currently have that. on section 44 of the oklahoma constitution, we already have a state guard. it's ju...

Did it would be a big problem, they are not allowed and it is against the law and i don't think they'll take that step, because at the end of the day they don't want to lose their jobs. martha: all right, the challenge you are putting to the teachers, pay 1.5% into the health care and -- all their health care is paid for, dental, vision, every from the day they start until the day they die and new jersey taxpayers are paying for that. >> this year, $823 million just in retiree teacher health benefits. martha: let's talk about the larger state issues, a lot of states deal with these things acro...

Documents. >> sure it was. the constitution talks about the united states building a military and that's part of the military. >> it said an army. i didn't know whether you were a strict constructionist or not. it says army and navy but never anything about an air force but it's okay to interpret the constitution that way and have an air force? >> well, the navy has planes, doesn't it? >> there's an air force. that's okay with you? >> absolutely. >> okay. i'm just wondering how liberal you read the constitution. is the social security system okay? is it all right to have a social security or n...

Documents. >> sure it was. the constitution talks about the united states building a military and that's part of the military. >> it said an army. it said an army. i didn't know whether you were a strict constructionist or not. it says army and navy but never anything about an air force but you think it's okay to interpret the constitution that way and have an air force? >> well, the navy has planes, doesn't it? >> there's an air force. that's okay with you? >> absolutely. >> okay. i'm just wondering how liberal you read the constitution. is the social security system okay? is it all right to ...