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Well, with us this evening is someone who was there, we think, as a small child, when john dean became a household name. jill wine-banks, attorney and former assistant watergate counsel. jill, a lot of people were sad to see at the end of the session today, senator john -- no relation -- kennedy smeared john dean and compared him to a rat. it was an unfortunate moment. dean was already kind of willing to laugh it off. other than that, how did it strike you today, seeing john dean, of all people, testifying on the hill? >> well, i'm very used to that because john dean has done a lot about water...

Investigation. he wouldn't say, for instance, whether president trump has the right to pardon himself or whether a sitting president must be required to respond to a subpoena. well, with us this evening is someone who was there, we think, as a small child, when john dean became a household name. jill wine-banks, former assistant watergate counsel. many were sad to see senator john -- no relation -- kennedy, smeared john dean and compared him to a rat. it was an unfortunate moment. dean was already kind of willing to laugh it off. other than that, how did it strike you today, seeing john dean, ...

Concurrences or dissents on his decade on the circuit, has met with 72 senate tours and so far in person. he is making a pitch that he is a mainstream jurist. >> the m.o. for republican nominees in the supreme court has been to sabotage their nominees. that is not going to happen with gorsuch. he is so beloved. the hit that they tried to pull out on him, he had a wealthy quiet he served well. he engaged an ethics question in an ethics course. it is sad to watch. when you see people saying they will vote against them when they have no actual reasons to vote against them, it looks like partisan ...

Concurrences or dissents on his decade on the circuit, has met with 72 senate tours and so far in person. he is making a pitch that he is a mainstream jurist. >> the m.o. for republican nominees in the supreme court has been to sabotage their nominees. that is not going to happen with gorsuch. he is so beloved. the hit that they tried to pull out on him, he had a wealthy quiet he served well. he engaged an ethics question in an ethics course. it is sad to watch. when you see people saying they will vote against them when they have no actual reasons to vote against them, it looks like partisan ...

>> the cold of federal regulations says use of public office for private gain. we saucon con get sworn in, hold up her right hand as the rest of the folks along with reince priebus here, but is this truly where, oh, gosh, i need to ask forgiveness, not permission, or is there going to be some type of ethics course of action that's brought against her from the office of ethics? >> it sounds like she got a stern counseling, as they say. that didn't sound like a real serious issue going on in the white house about what she said. i think if there was -- i think if this was done in a vacuum it woul...