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Propublica as you said, there is nothing wrong. justice alito did everything proper. he went on a trip with a friend. the personal hospitality rules as it was interpreted back then allows you not to report it. here's the dishonest thing that propublica does. in there article they cite ethics experts all of them either democrats funded by the left or some funded by these same groups to say that it's illegal that he violated the law. in the 73rd paragraph of this article you find out that the judicial conference which is the governing body that determines the ethics for the judiciary said that a...

That it would have been vacant otherwise? >> well you, know it is very puzzling, because he makes it sound like, look no problem, because it did not take anything out of the wallet of a billionaire, when all the ethics experts say it is not about, that right, and is about the appearance, it is about taking a ride on a jet for a three-day luxury trip, and then, never disclosing it on your financial disclosure forms, which asks you every year to disclose these gifts. i mean, i will say both alito and thomas who had a similar issue, they do not believe that ethics rules cover them. here but still...

Propublica, as you said, there's nothing wrong. justice alito did everything proper, right? hep with withtrioper. with with friends. okay. and personal hospitality rule, as it was interpreted back then, allowas it was not te it. and here's the dishonest thing that propublica does. dishone thing tthey in their a, they cite sort of ethics experts all them either democrats or funded by the left, some of them funded by these same groups to say laat it's illegal, that he violated the law. d para but in the 73rd paragraph ofhi this article, you find that the judicial conference, which is the governi...

Reporters. alito said he's spoken to singer in a handful of occasions. what did you learn about their interactions in your reporting? >> we learned that justice alito flew to that alaska fishing trip from the east coast on a private jet. provided by paul singer. we talked to a number of jet charter companies who said chart are that plane can cost over $100,000. this is an expensive gift, these flights to and from alaska. and the ethics experts we talked to said if you're a judge or a justice, you really shouldn't be sitting on a case or cases with a litigant who has been flying you around on a...

What alito didn't cite in his op-ed was any language from the disclosure law or the ethics rules. the disclosure law and the ethics rule both write about how you can take lodging, food and entertainment from people and don't have to disclose that, but it's clear that that doesn't include private jet travel. ethics experts have never excluded that. that's always been something that should be disclosed. you're right, we're not really disputing the facts. there's no affirmative defense of this behavior. >> brian fallon, alito is really mad. we know that from alito. alito, who was george w. bush's...