Of congress who violated the stock act last year, you have increasingly fewer and fewer members who even meet with investigators and what we're seeing ethics experts believe is less of a public awareness that there's any punishment for doing this. it used to be that if you did something untoward in congress you might be publicly embarrassed, voters might vote you out, but it doesn't seem like members of congress now feel that there's any public pressure to even comply with an ethics investigation and so many are -- >> so that leaves us with there's no shame and there's no rules. during the tru...