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Blavatnik. leonard blavatnik is a significant shareholder in da deripaska's company. that company once sanctions were first imposed, dropped like a stone. once the sanctions were lifted, it increased by some 24% in terms of the stock price. i think very strongly that secretary mnuchin should have recused himself or certainly should have asked the ethics office whether or not he should have been involved in the negotiations on the sanctions relative to deripaska and the lifting of those sanctions. >> since you have been pressing the treasury department on this, have you been able to get whether...

Blavatnik. leonard blavatnik is a significant shareholder in rusal, which is deripaska's company. that company, once sanctions were first imposed dropped like a stone. once the sanctions were lifted, it increased by some 24% in terms of the stock price. i think very strongly that secretary mnuchin should have recused himself or certainly should have asked the ethics office whether or not he should have been involved in the negotiations on the sanctions relative to deripaska and the lifting of those sanctions. >> since you have been pressing the treasury department on this, have you been able t...