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Yesterday that the supreme court is actually going to have to weigh in on what the 14th amendment means. it is a constitutional question, and he's right about that, but he is also right that he can probably bury the nationalization process, and congress can too. i think we need to consider all avenues to end a chain migration, stop the influx of illegal immigrants. absolutely into this country, also to reform. we have an immigration system that does not work for the workers of this country, including especially the people of missouri. we need to change it. the president's right about that. >> ...

Command is in charge of these active-duty troops. this is a departure from anything that we have seen before. that guard is down there. but now we are seeing active duty military employees directly on the border to work right on the border, not pushing paper, but actually working. i think that's a major departure, and i think the question can be we don't know what is going to happen when they show up. this will be a clash. it will be very dramatic. but we hope it is a sign and a showing of force, will deter them from setting for the united states because if and when they do, our broken immigra...

Watch. >> can you work with them if the democrats win the house? >> we can certainly try. i am looking to unify, they had a very hard time because they haven't been winning, and we will see what happens five days from now. >> sandra: as you are sitting down here, talking about how you have known president trump since the '70s. this is a guy that you know very well. what you make of how he responded to that question? can he unify and work with democrats? >> it really makes me sick the way that a lot of the left wing and the left-wing media and the democrats treat the president. you know, saying...

To the lawyers and i know it would be. but, i think the lawyers would find a way to make it publishable. and that would be the right thing. >> all right. but i got to ask you an ethics question, just and it's the last question. this is what i'm struggling with. if this person is pretty high up, okay, and they're saying these things, and they're essentially talking about the 25th amendment and all of this, this is, at what point does "the new york times" have a duty to share this with the public? >> i mean, they've made a commitment. the opinion side of the "new york times" has made a commitmen...

>> does it look like he's engaged in questionable behavior to you? >> i don't think you can get a room for $50 a night. >> republican senator lindsey graham on the ethics question scott pruitepa chief scott pruit is facing, but the president is doubling down on his support for pruitt, tweeting defense of his security spending and epa record and going on to say his rent was about market rate, travel expenses okay. let's bring in former dnc chairman howard dean, and republican strategist susan. front and center. that's all good. i love that. howard, how do you defend this if you're the president...