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Helped with obama care left the administration in february of 2015 and resurfaced in july as ceo of a health insurer trade group called america's health insurance plan. if that wasn't swampy enough, she also registered as a federal lobbyist. she claimed that she complied with obama's executive order on ethics because she didn't lobby the executive branch directly. she met with members of congress and gave advice to her colleagues who could lobby the executive branch directly. it gets worse, this executive order only related to registered lobbyists. many were deregistered from the ethics system...

It's doubtful if any voters across america will cast their vote on whether charles rangel maxine waters were guilty or not guilty. but it does add to the narrative that the democrats have increased the deficit, they aren't creating jobs, they've had the government take over the healthcare system. and now their members don't want to abide by the very laws that they passed. it's a bad narrative for democrats to defend this november. >> eric: ron, is there that narrative out there? >> it's less than ideal when two of your senior members are being accused of ethics charges. and none of us know the...

One united. they got $12 million worth of government subsidiaries. >> ron brought up in the hearing -- >> here is the difference. if i could just finish. >> sure. >> one difference is this: nancy pelosi will move forward with the trials. the republicans under their leadership took the extraordinary step of changing their own caucus rules to protect tom delay, so that even if he got indicted he could have stayed on as majority leader. that is a low point for congress. and even republicans found that repugnant. we have an open process. i don't like the fact that the man of the house, that member...