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Purchase from that same shop in 2009, the jewelry shop when we're talking about the pens, and they put it under the category of nonmonetary awards for administrator. that is only 3 hundreds less than pruitt's epa spent so do you think we're being overly scrutinizing because of the history as we just discussed? >> well, i think there's two things. first of all, i think it's terrible to hear that it happened in the last administration too. you know, i learned that as you did when the news reporting on it came out this week, and i definitely think if there's any option to continue looking into th...

Assimilate into. and then you have epa administrator scott pruitt with the ethics violations. >> do you still have confidence in administrator pruitt, mr. president? >> yesh, i do. >> you have the russia appropriation, the president's question of decency and then the question of how do you take it all on? it was interesting that ralph nader, who many democrats have a beef with, hammered democrats back and issued this challenge. >> i think the democratic party should take the third-party agenda away from it. they should have a living wage, crack down on corporate crime. democratic party stop sc...

>> oh, for sure. >> he's enjoying the fact that everybody who needles either rudy giuliani or the president gets something out of it. >> i talked to michael avenatti today about this, and the thing that you have behind you, trump's tangled web is, of course, a reference to him quoting sir walter scott on twitter saying what a tangled web we weave. he is saying this is about deception. he said he and his client, stormy daniels are leaning back and enjoying this. they describe giuliani as dazed and confused, and the deeper they go into it, the better it makes ms. daniels' case or ms. stephanie c...

That you have behind you, trump's tangled web is, of course, a reference to him quoting sir walter scott on twitter saying what a tangled web we weave. he is saying this is about deception. he said he and his client, stormy daniels are leaning back and enjoying this. they describe giuliani as dazed and confused, and the deeper they go into it, the better it makes ms. daniels' case or ms. clifford her real name. it's not just the potential campaign violation, ethics violations. let's not forget one of the most important things rudy giuliani said in that interview was he said president trump fir...

They describe giuliani as dazed and confused, and the deeper they go into it, the better it makes ms. daniels' case or ms. clifford her real name. it's not just the potential campaign violation, ethics violations. let's not forget one of the most important things rudy giuliani said in that interview was he said president trump fired james comey over the russia investigation. >> the latter part of that line is what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive. these guys aren't practicing much. it's more like the keystone cops or keystone criminals. they didn't get the memo on how