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>> peter, what are you hearing is motivating the white house? it's my understanding that it's his poll numbers and the fact that he's being blamed that are sort of getting -- getting under his skin. a lot more than the human calamity of the shutdown. >> well, one of the things that's really interesting about this shutdown, of course, it's not a complete government shutdown as we've had at times in the past. because it's a partial shutdown, about a quarter of the government, we haven't seen as early as we have in the past some of the impacts you were describing and this report talks about. so f...

Provide forever. it's not a switch we can turn on and off." another, "on the child exploitation side, as an undercover employee, i've had to put pervs on stand yn by. this puts children in jeopardy." finally, put simply "the fear is our enemies know they can run freely." joining fr ining us from "the n times," peter baker. former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence, frank figliuzzi. jeremy bash. at the table, elise jordan, former aide in the george w. bush white house and state department. euge euge eugene. i have to start with you, frank figliuzzi. i read this report with my eyes r...

Opposed to footen e ed to puti. they're saying we're reducing deripska's stake in the company so he won't retain control. it's going to be hard for mnuchin and the treasury department to enforce this. as peter said, russian companies are a spider's web of different shareholding alliances. one of the shareholders in rusal, to whom deripska is giving his shares, is a state-owned bank essentially controlled by putin. >> eugene, let me u-- this is from peter baker's great reporting about really how the president parts with the rest of the administration when it comes to russians. sanctions are one...

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Right now it is not clear to me. >> elana? >> i completely agree with euge eugene. i'm watching rosenstein, how he affect this entire dynamic, which is a whole other debate. >> courtney, do you have any thoughts? any buzz over there at the pentagon? >> the pentagon is stayings as far away from everything to do with politics as possible. president trump said he will only is sit down if he is going to be treated fairly. what does that mean? what is the definition of that? >> has anyone at the white house less than general mattis? he just does not get pictured coming in and out. >> he and general...