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Momentum. this president, i wonder if he had not gone after gun control, which probably wasn't get bable in the first place, if he had gone right into entitlement reform, corporate tax reform, right into immigration reform, whether he would have been building more momentum. and now i think he's stuck in a lot of these areas. >> senator bayh, what does this president need to do to turn things around? >> it's difficult, chris. the nation's capital and our country's politics are more deeply divided today than they were in bill clinton's time. and there are deep ideological differences that make c...

Alive. >> also condemned gosnelle. >> very well has made an excuse for gosnelle. don't comment on things that have a legal reaction. i think he's responsible in some ways. >> senator bayh, planned parenthood is controversial. there are two sides to this argument because supporters point out, and let's put it up on the screen, the hundreds of thousands of health screenings that they provide, fregosi tests, hiv tests, breast cancer tests, opponents point out as you can see the number on the bottom, it's also the nation's largest abortion provider. so i mean, there is two sides to the argument ab...

Democratic senator evan bye. you haven't been around nia as long as i have, but mr. obama's comment, i have to say reminded me of bill clinton's back in 1995 after the gingrich revolution when he had to declare at a news conference, the president is relevant. how much trouble is this president in right now? >> i think back to the white house correspondents dinner where he had that self-mocking thing where he put up the bush library is w. bush's legacy and his legacy would be the blame bush library. so he went on in this press conference. i kept thinking his legacy could be blame congressional ...

That is at the supreme court. we're going to see that. i think that's something most americans would agree upon. that very late term abortions are gruesome, they're immoral, can we not at least agree on that? >> he shouldn't have been able to operate as long as he did without being turned in. what does that say about our culture and abortions in this country. >> that i don't know. i voted to support roe versus wade, but i also voted to ban late-term abortions. that raises the issue of when does life begin? >> that's a minority opinion, senator bayh. >> there is a political aspect of this becau...

That is at the supreme court. we're going to see that. i think that's something most americans would agree upon. that very late term abortions are gruesome, they're immoral, can we not at least agree on that? >> he shouldn't have been able to operate as long as he did without being turned in. what does that say about our culture and abortions in this country. >> that i don't know. i voted to support roe versus wade, but i also voted to ban late-term abortions. that raises the issue of when does life begin? >> that's a minority opinion, senator bayh. >> there is a political aspect of this becau...