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Wish is exceedingly unlikely to come true. well for more i'm joined now by ilesha drake she is author of the beautiful fall a book about the why of henri between karl lagerfeld and another star designer eve saw the wrong back in the nineteen seventies elisa's good to have you on the show we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight you met karl lagerfeld what was he like to look at it was incredibly charming extraordinary serious you managed and always interested in you know what you had to say in. that scene when he went to his house on the united states when he was still in its ...