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Inspector general there, but others with non-prosecuting some of the civil rights division cases that they should have been. so now the idea is these guys now are not prosecuting cases in which the black people are charged with potentially discriminating against whites. my sense is this is a big political fight. does it amount so much in terms of substance, no. >> bret: even k.t., if you have j. christian adams coming out, former justice department attorney saying this was bigger, broader, mandate from above. >> this guy had been wearing a white hood and carrying a burning cross, instead of bl...

That perhaps every american eventually will have to get a b.m.i., a body mass index? >> women lie about their weight on their driver's license for years. this takes away the ability to do that. one sense it's funny. in the other sense, you know, what if we do, i mean this is the first bit of information we're collecting. so what if in the end we do start rationing healthcare. you are too fat. you have a lousy body mass index. >> bret: are you pointing to me,k.t.? do you want to come back on the panel? [ laughter ] >> no, i'm one of the people that lie on my driver's license. or if you a smoker...

Initially, new mexico and pennsylvania had said that the plans would include abortion coverage, but then they reversed course. what about this controversy and is it true that there is a loophole? bring in the panel. juan williams, news analyst for national public radio. k.t. mcfarland, fox news national security analyst, we welcome her to the panel. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. juan, bart stupak who fought for the president to sign the executive order says this is a win, that new mexico and pennsylvania backed off. pro-life groups say listen, there is still a loophole. what ab...

Division cases that they should have been. so now the idea is these guys now are not prosecuting cases in which the black people are charged with potentially discriminating against whites. my sense is this is a big political fight. does it amount so much in terms of substance, no. >> bret: even k.t., if you have j. christian adams coming out, former justice department attorney saying this was bigger, broader, mandate from above. >> this guy had been wearing a white hood and carrying a burning cross, instead of black beret and a billy club we'd still see protests in philadelphia. i think it is ...

The other side of the story is that much of this would apply to what they call the high-risk pool, for people who are poor and don't have health insurance. would not be elig to believe get health insurance -- eligible to get health insurance under the president's healthcare plan. those folks may feel should be eligible because if the states are setting the standards. remember, this is nothing that the federal government is doing. state standards for medicare, medicaid, welfare, whatever. it is up to the state. if the state sets the standard why should people be ineligible. the response, of cou...