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Your just like property taxes, you're clear about what they're paying for. with the payroll tax, we know what it's paying for, but i feel there's an obscurity around it. i have to say coming from a working class household, i didn't know that high incomes capped out. i didn't know there was a point at which you stopped paying payroll taxes. you know, the first time i ever earned enough, it was in a november, i was 32. i was like, my check is too big. it should be smaller this month. >> you're a rare bird. >> i had no idea that it felt to me like this seemed like the easiest tax base solution. e...

Board, obama would have come in and he would have been virtually begging to make a deal. and you would have had spending cuts, and you would have had -- you could have put this country back on track. they lost all the >> sean: they got elected, too. >> i don't understand. you know, it's funny, and john boehner, who i know and like a lot, by the way, and i happen to think he's very capable, i just don't know what happened here. i don't understand it. the republicans, believe -- i've been saying the last few months the republicans have all the cards and not just talking about just the debt ceili...

Board, obama would have come in and he would have been virtually begging to make a deal. and you would have had spending cuts, and you would have had -- you could have put this country back on track. they lost all their --. >> sean: they got elected, too. >> i don't understand. you know, it's funny, and john boehner, who i know and like a lot, by the way, and i happen to think he's very capable, i just don't know what happened here. i don't understand it. the republicans, believe -- i've been saying the last few months the republicans have all the cards and not just talking about just the debt...

That's what it's about here. it's not about a personality but about the issue. that's what drives people to sign that. >> this election, as soon as grover couldn't protect the people who signed his pledge all of a sudden this so-called principled stance started falling apart. we're starting to see republicans say hey, we'll take a hard look at tax policy. let's talk about entitlements and tax policy for a minute here. if we look at social security, for example, seems like there's two easy solutions on both sides. if democrats said all right, we're going to raise retirement age basically a coup...

Freedom and conscience. it's mandating everybody pay for everyone else's free birth control and ton tra acception. don't ask, don't tell. i just don't think in the middle of combat that that was going to work. and that was -- >> it's not just his wrong headed economic policies on social issues. this guy is true to fall. he's wrongway ryan. joining me now is katherine crier. what america must do to save the republic author. catherine, let me start with you. paul ryan's socially conservative positions are the bread and butter. but is he a risky pick? >> i think so.